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46 seconds ago Well, It's been two weeks B, and we have no Polarity website update »
Tsion
EErudite
Registered: May, 2009
Posts: 98

HEEman wrote:

Tec wrote:

HEEman wrote:

Looks like another lie to add to the list.

Well, you seem to have changed your tune a trifle!

You know what Tec, you should keep quiet. This is serious business for some people and they don't like loosing money. I have had about enough of the bashing from the likes of you and all the other bashers. I am looking for some SERIOUS information to indicate that someone is going to be delivering an EESU as we have been told.

You wont find it from the Internet. If you are really that serious, you should go to Texas and ask questions. But, even then, it probably wouldn't be a straight answer.

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3 minutes ago Well, It's been two weeks B, and we have no Polarity website update »
eeinterested
EEcclesiastical
Registered: Dec, 2008
Posts: 1099

Kleiner, Perkins and their ilk are not used to guys like DW who maintain control of the company, and don't plan to go public in the way that KP is used to. So, not controlling interest, and no IPO. Chilly relationship follows.

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6 minutes ago Super-duper rail gun »
eeinterested
EEcclesiastical
Registered: Dec, 2008
Posts: 1099

Funny, I knew exactly how you would see this, Heeman. Try not to be so predictable.

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9 minutes ago A Gentlemans Wager. ee-tom -vs- TVillars »
karlm
EEager
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Registered: Aug, 2008
Posts: 307

Congrats ee-tom. I'm kind of disappointed that he already paid though. It actually gave us all a date to look forward to. Before it was Dec 31st, now we are back to nothing, except of course the AGM.

Some other long should continue the betting fun with ee-tom or someone else. It makes everything a bit more interesting during these no news no anything periods.

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21 minutes ago Well, It's been two weeks B, and we have no Polarity website update »
HEEman
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Registered: Sep, 2009
Posts: 594

Tec wrote:

HEEman wrote:

Looks like another lie to add to the list.

Well, you seem to have changed your tune a trifle!

You know what Tec, you should keep quiet. This is serious business for some people and they don't like loosing money. I have had about enough of the bashing from the likes of you and all the other bashers. I am looking for some SERIOUS information to indicate that someone is going to be delivering an EESU as we have been told.


Go Eestor Go Zenn. Ra ra re kick em in the knee. Ra ra ras kick em in the other knee.

I love my country but I fear my government.

Confirmed EEstor vulture

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34 minutes ago Super-duper rail gun »
HEEman
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Posts: 594

Generic wrote:

bcgamefisher wrote:

Yes and the only way to win against asymmetrical warfare is to change the way we treat other peoples and nations.

Couldn't agree more.

I always say the best way to end conflict is by giving people jobs and access to creature comforts. And I always receive uncomfortable silence in return. Those people are the 'enemy' after all. =)

Terrorists aren't born, they're made.

You won't get silence from me Generic. The best way to do this is to introduce capitalism and Christianity to them.


Go Eestor Go Zenn. Ra ra re kick em in the knee. Ra ra ras kick em in the other knee.

I love my country but I fear my government.

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36 minutes ago Super-duper rail gun »
HEEman
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eeinterested wrote:

bEElzebub wrote:

bcgamefisher wrote:

It's a sad fact that as we move forward with an EV future that the flip side of a good thing can give us such destructive things.

The EEsu has so many civil uses it's potential for good is huge.

But rail-guns,ray-guns and exo-soldiers get the money and the backing.

How mission critical are supercaps? how long till LM and EEstor can talk? The emergence of competing designs may actually speed up a release. There may even be a "Military" grade EEsu for all we know.

But it's quite obvious the military would be all over this and I wonder if it is commercialization? or declassification we are really waiting for.

I think a lot of technolgy evolution will be military driven for a long time. The thing is people tend to forget the history of society all the time. How many empires that has risen and fallen. Almost all empires has ended violently, some has imploded but most have been gunned down by a newer better society. It is just darwin's rule survivor of the fittest that holds true society wise too. The only thing looking brighter in that direction is the constant flood of information world-wide that we have today. But although we think that is a bullet-proof thing few of us would notice when misinformation was started to spread by some rouge government. Thing is there are technologies we know of today that would rock the boat and flip the power in an instant as soon as some country had it developed. I can think of 4 directly,

1. Robot army - preferably Von Neumann types.
2. Airborne swarm-robots (fly like things).
3. High-Power laser in orbit, shoots down all enemy satellites and can destroy targets on land.
4. Anti-matter bombs.

As soon as any country have one of these they can take over the world easily. Then it is just for the others to hope that is not their agenda.

But after looking back 2000 years and remember as recently as 20th century we had 2 world wars and plenty of minor clashes and to think that mankind has evolved since is merely just stupid. At least there is no biological difference, so if people liked to empower other people 50 years ago we can be pretty sure that is still the case. So if I was US government and had the power to loose, I would definetely have a pretty steep military budget. One thing we all can be pretty sure of is that if the Talibans had some doomesday weapon they wouldn't really care about civilian casulties. And by the the way it is only a nation with big superiority that cares about civilians. In world war II all parties made sure they killed as much civilians they could to make sure to weaken the enemy the most by an attack. People tend to think the 2 atom bombs was the worst thing that have ever happened, then they perhaps forget that it died more people in tokyo from classical firebombing than the two atom bombs killed together. In fact the atom bombs probably saved millions of lives because japan would probably not surrender if it wasn't for the big upper hand with the atomic bombs.

So not to sound too pessimistic but it is by far the lowest odds to bet on new big war within the next 100 years. So all we can do is try to be on the winning side.

Assymetrical warfare is the only thing that can realistically take place for the next decades. Big vs. insurgents, really.

Any clash between nuclear powers is not winnable by any stretch or measure. If you are not willing to lose all of your major cities in a war, it is not winnable. One submarine can do this.

There is nothing that can protect any major country from any determined nuclear power with the ability to project its arsenal.

This changes things. We need to get down to the business of creating peace. The Taliban needs to be fought, but they did not arise from nothing. Any major conflict can be traced to lots of mis-steps by the dominant powers, and grindingly bad conditions for the regular people.

Railgunning, lasering and bombing our way to peace just ain't gonna happen. We already have astounding superiority; it does not stop suicide bombers, etc.

Backpack nukes, rogue generals, desperate despots, etc. are best kept in check by cooperation and conflict resolution.

You are kidding right. How you could overlook the many different ways for large nations with huge armies go to battle is beyond me. Let me give you one possible example of this. Suppose that Obama's failed fiscal pollicies continue to drive our country into the crapper. We begin to slowly loose our influence around the world and those friendly to us in the past now become our enemies. Couple this with our spiraling debt to foreign counties and our assured default, and you have a recipe for world war. The Chicoms, pissed because they aint gettin their money, then continue to absorb the weak willed and unpatriotic dem party members with their vast monetary influence, pretty much how the open border people have already done. They then have the ability and political clout to dismantle our nuclear arsenal. Whammo you have WWIII.


Go Eestor Go Zenn. Ra ra re kick em in the knee. Ra ra ras kick em in the other knee.

I love my country but I fear my government.

Confirmed EEstor vulture

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39 minutes ago Well, It's been two weeks B, and we have no Polarity website update »
Y_Po
EESUrient
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Registered: May, 2009
Posts: 2133

jimp wrote:

Listening to the interview again, it seems like DW doesn't leave the best impression or relationship in regards to KP. Like he is being neutral or "PC," kinda like talking about inlaws.

Does anyone have the same impression?

Any other insights gained listening this time around -Farmeer ,etc..

I had this impression the first time I listened to the tape. It is clear that KPCB kicked him out when he came asking for more money. On the tape Weir is doing his best to play it down but it is hard to play it down.


Q: What will happen if you give 12 volt battery and two 6 volts light bulbs to Weir/Nelson?

A: They will wait 8 years for 12V -> 6V DC-DC converter.

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55 minutes ago Well, It's been two weeks B, and we have no Polarity website update »
HEEman
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Registered: Sep, 2009
Posts: 594

Lensman wrote:

I think it's unfair to characterize the Polarity guy's statement (paraphrasing) "We'll talk after December" as a "lie". Presumably he was told by Dick Weir that he would be free to talk after EEStor delivered a pre-production RedB EESU to ZMC, and that this would happen by the end of the year. It's not the fault of Polarity that this has been delayed.

I don't see this as being unfair at all. If you say something that is not true, that is a lie. If you say you are going to deliver something, and you don't, that is a lie. While those of invested in Zenn stock are getting our heads handed to us right now, the leaders of this company are hiding under their desks. Let me be clear here. It is one thing to not make a deadline. This is understandble and happens to the best of us. To not make a deadline and then have nothing to say about it is a lie. Are you hearing me IC. Wake up man, get off your ass and do something.

To all who are going to respond to this with "it's a risky investment, only invest what you can afford to loose" line. Don't bother. If you are a true investor in Zenn, I will listen to you though. All bashers shut your pie holes please.


Go Eestor Go Zenn. Ra ra re kick em in the knee. Ra ra ras kick em in the other knee.

I love my country but I fear my government.

Confirmed EEstor vulture

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56 minutes ago Super-duper rail gun »
eeinterested
EEcclesiastical
Registered: Dec, 2008
Posts: 1099

Good points, all.

It is also cheaper to lend a hand than to put down an insurrection. When you are done putting them down, you have to rebuild anyway. Better to start with the respect, and bring our best values.

The old way was to raid the natural resources, pay off the leaders, and screw the regular folk. Guaranteed ugly.

Hopefully, things are changing. There are signs.

The EESU could help a lot.

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1 hour ago Lockheed Martin Named Title Sponsor for WBT2010 »
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1 hour ago Super-duper rail gun »
Generic
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bcgamefisher wrote:

Yes and the only way to win against asymmetrical warfare is to change the way we treat other peoples and nations.

Couldn't agree more.

I always say the best way to end conflict is by giving people jobs and access to creature comforts. And I always receive uncomfortable silence in return. Those people are the 'enemy' after all. =)

Terrorists aren't born, they're made.

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2 hours ago How BT saturates »
DAP
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larry wrote:

DAP, have to admit I'm not understanding how you get the energy back out to the electrodes.

How would you get it back in a 'normal' capacitor?


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3 hours ago Super-duper rail gun »
bcgamefisher
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eeinterested wrote:

bEElzebub wrote:

bcgamefisher wrote:

It's a sad fact that as we move forward with an EV future that the flip side of a good thing can give us such destructive things.

The EEsu has so many civil uses it's potential for good is huge.

But rail-guns,ray-guns and exo-soldiers get the money and the backing.

How mission critical are supercaps? how long till LM and EEstor can talk? The emergence of competing designs may actually speed up a release. There may even be a "Military" grade EEsu for all we know.

But it's quite obvious the military would be all over this and I wonder if it is commercialization? or declassification we are really waiting for.

I think a lot of technolgy evolution will be military driven for a long time. The thing is people tend to forget the history of society all the time. How many empires that has risen and fallen. Almost all empires has ended violently, some has imploded but most have been gunned down by a newer better society. It is just darwin's rule survivor of the fittest that holds true society wise too. The only thing looking brighter in that direction is the constant flood of information world-wide that we have today. But although we think that is a bullet-proof thing few of us would notice when misinformation was started to spread by some rouge government. Thing is there are technologies we know of today that would rock the boat and flip the power in an instant as soon as some country had it developed. I can think of 4 directly,

1. Robot army - preferably Von Neumann types.
2. Airborne swarm-robots (fly like things).
3. High-Power laser in orbit, shoots down all enemy satellites and can destroy targets on land.
4. Anti-matter bombs.

As soon as any country have one of these they can take over the world easily. Then it is just for the others to hope that is not their agenda.

But after looking back 2000 years and remember as recently as 20th century we had 2 world wars and plenty of minor clashes and to think that mankind has evolved since is merely just stupid. At least there is no biological difference, so if people liked to empower other people 50 years ago we can be pretty sure that is still the case. So if I was US government and had the power to loose, I would definetely have a pretty steep military budget. One thing we all can be pretty sure of is that if the Talibans had some doomesday weapon they wouldn't really care about civilian casulties. And by the the way it is only a nation with big superiority that cares about civilians. In world war II all parties made sure they killed as much civilians they could to make sure to weaken the enemy the most by an attack. People tend to think the 2 atom bombs was the worst thing that have ever happened, then they perhaps forget that it died more people in tokyo from classical firebombing than the two atom bombs killed together. In fact the atom bombs probably saved millions of lives because japan would probably not surrender if it wasn't for the big upper hand with the atomic bombs.

So not to sound too pessimistic but it is by far the lowest odds to bet on new big war within the next 100 years. So all we can do is try to be on the winning side.

Assymetrical warfare is the only thing that can realistically take place for the next decades. Big vs. insurgents, really.

Any clash between nuclear powers is not winnable by any stretch or measure. If you are not willing to lose all of your major cities in a war, it is not winnable. One submarine can do this.

There is nothing that can protect any major country from any determined nuclear power with the ability to project its arsenal.

This changes things. We need to get down to the business of creating peace. The Taliban needs to be fought, but they did not arise from nothing. Any major conflict can be traced to lots of mis-steps by the dominant powers, and grindingly bad conditions for the regular people.

Railgunning, lasering and bombing our way to peace just ain't gonna happen. We already have astounding superiority; it does not stop suicide bombers, etc.

Backpack nukes, rogue generals, desperate despots, etc. are best kept in check by cooperation and conflict resolution.

Yes and the only way to win against asymmetrical warfare is to change the way we treat other peoples and nations.
The root causes underlying that are generally greed by the "haves".

To win we must defeat "pure" capitalism. The idea of restricting commerce through legislation is however,not likely.(too many lobbyists and uncooperative nations) If we are to avoid inevitable wars and risk of extinction we must change some core values.(wish we could)

Too much cream floating at the top has dis-enfranchised the masses.(nothing new there)

I have always thought this would lead us all to a climactic war long before now. It is a testament to those wise MAD pioneers. The good news is asymmetric warfare does not have the reach to wipe us all out (I hope).


Lens scale 6 down from 8 waiting is hard but still optimistic....will drop to 3.01 if nothing after AGM

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3 hours ago Help out a fellow geek »
Pyjamas Before Christ
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Thanks for anyone that happened to contribute, he has meet the small fundraiser target.


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