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Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 8:08am	#1
eestorblog Administrator Registered: Aug, 2008 Last visit: 2 hours ago Posts: 2271	I was curious about something. Do remember that article in Battery magazine that John MIller wrote where he examined EEStor? Do his criticisms rely merely on the patent data or does it seem like he reveals anything new via his criticisms...keeping in mind his claim that he evaluated EEStor twice for the federal govt. anyone know? ------------------ www.nyumbani.org http://theeestory.com/topics/1949 I believe in miracles.
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Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 8:24pm	#2
tvillars EEcclesiastical Registered: Aug, 2008 Last visit: 7 hours ago Posts: 1054	I didn't see anything that indicates any new knowledge by Miller on EEStor. In fact his information appears rather dated. For example: Miller wrote: The device in question is described in a US patent assigned to EEStor, #7,033,406. There are at least three associated published patent applications. 7,033,406 is the old "glass" patent. The new patent 7,466,536 had been published for over a year before Miller's article. By not referencing the newer EESU patent, Miller is showing his EEStor awareness is not current. One other objection that Miller raised gave me pause. Miller wrote: Several applications-engineering problems also arise about the description. One is that the claimed several kilovolt operating voltage is not really well suited for use in vehicles, despite the fact that the patent claims this is its aim. Operating at several kilovolts requires much greater insulation on wiring and demands that systems be isolated to prevent leakage currents from flowing along surfaces in humid conditions. It also means greater distance for standoffs. These are the problems one would expect with a much higher voltage portable system than those in electric vehicles today, all below 1 kV. Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but Miller seems to suggest the voltage coming out the EESU will not be regulated to a constant voltage, but instead each system must handle the highest voltage. This is just wrong and I have to wonder if Miller is simply relying on his memory of the conversations he had with Dick back in 2001 instead of actively researching what EEStor is doing. Here is a link to Miller’s article. https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=F.9e97681b-b7be-4eff-be07-ad59885d05a3 Last edited Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 8:59pm by tvillars Past Predictions 1 - 4, 6 Current Predictions 5) component to have specific energy between 550 to 650 Wh/kg
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I didn't see anything that indicates any new knowledge by Miller on EEStor. In fact his information appears rather dated. For example:

Miller wrote:
The device in question is described in a US patent assigned to EEStor, #7,033,406. There are at least three associated published patent applications.

7,033,406 is the old "glass" patent. The new patent 7,466,536 had been published for over a year before Miller's article. By not referencing the newer EESU patent, Miller is showing his EEStor awareness is not current.

One other objection that Miller raised gave me pause.

Miller wrote:
Several applications-engineering problems also arise about the description. One is that the claimed several kilovolt operating voltage is not really well suited for use in vehicles, despite the fact that the patent claims this is its aim. Operating at several kilovolts requires much greater insulation on wiring and demands that systems be isolated to prevent leakage currents from flowing along surfaces in humid conditions. It also means greater distance for standoffs. These are the problems one would expect with a much higher voltage portable system than those in electric vehicles today, all below 1 kV.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but Miller seems to suggest the voltage coming out the EESU will not be regulated to a constant voltage, but instead each system must handle the highest voltage. This is just wrong and I have to wonder if Miller is simply relying on his memory of the conversations he had with Dick back in 2001 instead of actively researching what EEStor is doing.

Here is a link to Miller’s article.
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=F.9e97681b-b7be-4eff-be07-ad59885d05a3

Last edited Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 8:59pm by tvillars

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